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09.06.2005

Vinography in Food & Wine Magazine

Vinography appeared in the current issue (October) of Food & Wine Magazine this week. Writer Mickey Butts highlighted his list of the best wine blogs on the web, and graciously included Vinography. I don't have much to say about his list (other than to note that Joe Dressner's and Jamie Goode's web sites, both of which I read regularly, are technically not blogs). Butts has chosen several good examples of what are dozens or even scores of frequently updated blogs run by dedicated bloggers and wine drinkers. No list like this can ever be "right," and I'd like to suggest that anyone who was curious enough to visit here because of the article definitely both check out the other blogs listed in the magazine and also take a look at the nearly 150 other wine blogs that I have listed on the left hand side of the page.

Deciding which blogs or blogs to read is not about going to an authoritative source like the New York Times, it's about finding someone whose voice, sensibility, and palate resonate with you, and who writes stuff you want to read. There are a lot of passionate individuals out there on the web, each of whom is making their own contribution to a growing body of wine notes, critiques, news, and ramblings.

Here's a link to the article on Food & Wine's web site.

Comments (19)

NS wrote:
09.06.05 at 1:41 PM

Congratulations on the well-deserved mention and praise in F&W!

Lenn wrote:
09.06.05 at 2:55 PM

Congratulations again, Alder. I'm green (or perhaps a deeply extracted crimson) with envy...but it's hard to argue with the choices (impossible really).

Glad to see you listed...and you're the one mentioned blog that whose omission would have been a crime.

Still working on getting you some NY wines.

Doug wrote:
09.07.05 at 9:17 AM

Very well-deserved, for your work and your passion. Congrates and thank you for keeping us in the know.

Joe Dressner wrote:
09.08.05 at 9:22 AM

Congratulations!

You're probably right about Dressner's blog not being a blog. I'm curious about why you think this is the case?

Alder wrote:
09.08.05 at 10:02 AM

Joe,

Thanks for stopping by ! In my book a blog is a web site that has ALL of the following features:

1. The site provides an RSS feed of its content. For more information on RSS feeds, see: http://www.podcastingnews.com/articles/Understanding_RSS_Feeds.html

2. The site consists of dated entries that users are allowed to post their own comments in response to.

3. The site is run by an individual or group of individuals (though they may have an affiliation to a particular company) and it expresses their individual or collective point of view.

Typically these sites are constructed and maintained using a specific software package designed for blogging like Movable Type, Blogger.Com, Typepad.Com, LiveJournal.Com, etc, but it is possible to construct a blog without doing so.

So it's on that basis that I suggest your site and Jamie Goode's site don't really qualify as blogs in my book, but that's just a technicality, and there are probably some people who would argue with that.

The most important thing is great content, and both of you have been producing that for years. Keep up the good work.

If you're interested in shifting your site to be more blog-like and would like some help, let me know.

Joe Dressner wrote:
09.08.05 at 10:35 AM

Dear Alder:

Actually, I do think I have a blog.

Point 1: Blogs existed before RSS. I don't see the point, although maybe I'm wrong. RSS is not a technology I use.

Point 2: I used Blogger when I first started out. A friend of a friend offered me his software, which is web based. The software is fast, he customizes it for me, and it does everything the various other blogging software does. I can blog from my PocketPC when travelling and do lots of things I find useful. I prefer this software and never saw the advantage of using a branded blogger, except that a branded blogger gets me on blog search engines. But my software, and I'm not sure why, does a splendid job getting me on google. This seems much more useful to me.

Point 3: I qualify

I suppose that the one difference between my blog and many other blogs is that I don't see my blog as a link machine to other sites. Instead, it is all original content.

The content is quintessential blog. Egomanical, self-promotional, self-serving, sometimes comical and sometimes full of shit. What more can you ask for in a blog?

Anyhow, keep up the good work and don't be so hard on Jamie and I!

Joe Dressner

Alder wrote:
09.08.05 at 10:50 AM

Joe,

I do owe you an apology -- I must have had a brain blip -- your site does have comments. Jamie's doesn't and I must have just extended that to your site without refreshing my memory.

I would love it if you used RSS, actually, because then I could read your site every day in my newsreader, which I would like to. I have actually cobbled together a fake RSS feed for your site, but it doesn't always notice the updates you make.

I'm not trying to be hard on you and Jamie at all, though perhaps I'm coming across that way. I think the definition of what is a blog has evolved from where it began, and I was trying to apply what I think the definition is to the list that Mickey put together, not in an attempt to suggest that anyone didn't belong on the list, but to make it clear that there were differences between how some of the sites were organized (though obviosuly I misstated those in the case of your site).

Anyhow. The horse is dead. Let's go drink some wine. I enjoyed a nice Picpoul-de-Pinet of yours (I think) over the weekend.

Joe Dressner wrote:
09.08.05 at 10:58 AM

Alder:

Thanks you for the qualification. We do not import a Picpoul-de-Pinet, but I'm glad you enjoyed the wine.

I wish your site was more personal and less cross-referencing. My notion of a blog is that it is a vehicle for self-published original content not an organized search engine.

I find many of the blogs runs by the Branded Blogging Software to have fabulously busy layouts with so many hyperlinks that the reader is lost.

Best,

Joe

Alder wrote:
09.08.05 at 11:27 AM

Joe,

Boy, I'm just making all sorts of mistakes where you're concerned aren't I. Heh. We drank the picpoul with a wine called Les Heretiques which had your sticker on it. My friend who served both wines said he got them the same place and I assumed the white was yours as well.

Thanks for your feedback on my site. I'd love to have all the content on the site be my point of view, but I don't have enough time for that -- wine isn't my full time job. I recently ran a survey on the site to see what people wanted and many of my readers expressed a desire to see even more wine related news, along with more individual wine reviews. We'll have to see how it goes.

09.10.05 at 10:32 AM

Alder - Congrats on the Food & Wine mention. Let's get out to dinner again soon.

Neil

Joe Dressner wrote:
09.10.05 at 12:21 PM

Is this the same Neil Monnens who has a wine blog and just left messages on my wine blog? Is it possible there are only three guys writing wine blogs and we're all reading and commenting on each other's blogs?

I'm in the Bay Area tomorrow. Come meet me on Monday at the Harrison Street Taco Truck for dinner.

Alder wrote:
09.10.05 at 12:47 PM

Heh heh. I'm sure half of my traffic are other wine bloggers.

Neil runs Winerelease.Com and the newsletter qprwines.com but I don’t know that he has a blog. Maybe he's got one going stealthily on the side.

I’d love to meet you for dinner at the Harrison Street taco truck (one of my favorites) but I'm flying to NY on business tomorrow and will be there until Wednesday.

Can I take a rain check ? Perhaps Neil will join you.

Jack wrote:
09.10.05 at 11:24 PM

I recently discovered an RSS feed for Joe Dressner's blog (yeah, I'm with him on this...it's definitely a blog and he was doing it before there was blog software). Yes, the feed doesn't work well. Joe - if you're still reading this, try switching to ListGarden to do your feeds - it's working for me. http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/listgarden/

As for Jamie Goode, he has both a site and a blog. (Yes, I didn't realize this either - absolutely no reason you would know this, Alder.) http://www.wineanorak.com/blog.htm

Alder wrote:
09.11.05 at 7:45 AM

Jack,

Thanks for the tip on the RSS feed for Joe's blog. I was aware of the section of the site that Jamie entitles as his blog, but see my earlier criteria for what I consider a blog. Jamie's site doesn't have a feed, nor does it allow comments. My definition looks to be unpopular, though :-)

Jamie Goode wrote:
09.13.05 at 3:58 AM

So I'm the only one in the list without a proper blog. I feel bereft. I would love to make it a proper bog, but then I'd lose banner impressions and advertising revenue. I still call it a blog, though, although in the horribly conformist world of 'real' blogs I understand it isn't the genuine article.

Alder wrote:
09.14.05 at 9:53 AM

Jamie,

How is it that you would loose banner impressions and ad revenue? Or are you kidding about that?

I'm happy to help you set up an RSS feed of your site if you like.

Joe Dressner wrote:
09.17.05 at 10:13 AM

Jamie: You're the king of the blogger's in my book!

jamie G wrote:
02.01.06 at 2:23 AM

Joe, no, I insist - you're the king. No, really. The KING! KING JOE!

Alder
I've taken the jump. I now have a feed and comments. I am the proud owner of proper blog.

abuy wrote:
08.27.07 at 12:56 AM


it was very nice to go through this blog. usually we cant find that much informative blogs like this. thanks.

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